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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Subs are out. It's kinda crazy how the suicide law is becoming like an epidemic spreading. Poor Seizaki, he just can't seem to catch a break. Kinda interesting background storytelling about Wood though. |
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| Sekuro died. I really dont want this happen. |
ryanstrikeDec 29, 2019 8:03 AM
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| Slowburner ep, but that was to be expected after the ride that was the last episode. Seems like tensions are rising in the states. Shoutout to my boy Seizaki for sporting them crocs  |
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| I didn't really like this episode. It feels like the show will lose focus now that it's going international. First the long wait and now we get an episode about the US president. Sekuro was my favorite character and it really sucks that she died. I'm expecting Zen's family to die at any moment now. |
tokidoki921Dec 29, 2019 8:31 AM
| I seriously didn't expect that the plot would take this direction and I don't know what to think of it as of yet. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| The story is so haunting. I'm glad it's back. |
| Looks like it's finally back, that's good |
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| only thing that surprise me is that how a beginner like Revoroot giving us such an amazing anime...... their animation is so good... btw i have question did they time jump in episode 8?? |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
| I think magase is now pretending to be seizaki's wife.... |
| “You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin”. |
| So is the president of the United States a gamer now? ;v |
| This is an incredible episode, I wonder why suicide isn't discussed as much in our society |
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| Pretty long character setup for the US president. I hope it benefits future episodes because on its own this was pretty bland. Especially, after having to watch an ultra depressed Seizaki in the 1st half. |
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| FINALLY, it's back. After 6 weeks, I feel they lost a lot of momentum and it's self inflicted. After one of the greatest episodes in history to go on hiatus like that, was odd to say the least. Especially when people had just started talking about the show. But, it is what it is, I did buy the novel in the time since the last ep. Man, Alex being president really through me for a loop there ngl, great directing there. I also thought his wife Emma was gonna be Magase and that they were gonna explain that's how she learnt to cut people up/kill people or something lol. Great symbolism and foreshadowing during Zen's flashbacks and dream sequences, him being on the edge of the roof for example. "Don't worry about us, choose what's right" Fairly sure she and the kid are gonna be goners by the time the story ends. One thing I really like about the series is how there's this sense of dread and inevitability. It's like you feel hopeless in stopping this wave that's spreading throughout the world because of these preexisting legal and social constraints. To really stop these monsters you will have to break those constraints and go outside the normal limits. 4 more eps, hoping they can really stick a landing to solidify this as an all time great. Edit: Is a new ep coming tomorrow too? Have they switched to Sundays? Or will it be Monday's again starting on the 7th? |
Marinate1016Dec 29, 2019 11:12 AM
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| Wooo finally Babylon is back and damn is Zen messed up mentally after all that's gone down. All this buildup with his family though seems like it's building up for them to die The 2nd half was pretty weird though ngl. Surprised at the end lol didn't expect that dude to be the actual president. Thought it was gonna be another anime with Donald Trump in it lol |
 'On-Hold' is another way for a completionist to say 'Dropped' |
| Motherfucker really gave his computer a thumbs up. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
Stark700 said: It's kinda crazy how the suicide law is becoming like an epidemic spreading. DavidPavel said: Nah I don't think so. it's just a normal thing to happen after that election commercial for suicide in episode 6. if you guys think that's weird than a similar thing is happening with weed & marijuana in the real world. in the information era, things happen in a matter of days.it's crazy how that suicide law is being adopted by so many different countries. Stark700 said: Kinda interesting background storytelling about Wood though. DavidPavel said: Man really loved that character introduction there, his way of thinking & him being the president also, that slap from his girlfriend (now his wife) must have boosted his confidence that's the main reason I think we are seeing him as a president. that women changed his life. overall I like where the things are going.After a long wait, the show is back. I didn't expect Alex to be the president of USA tokidoki921 said: Hmm, I think it's just getting started. I loved the way they introduced the new character Alexander W. Wood. really like this character & how he thinks. overall I am really excited where things are going especially with this episode. I didn't really like this episode. It feels like the show will lose focus now that it's going international. First the long wait and now we get an episode about the US president. Yup, that came from nowhere, as crocs owner it felt good. |
| Nothing impressive! |
KamisamaHatatan said: he is a human, why not?So is the president of the United States a gamer now? ;v |
| Nothing impressive! |
| I find it hard to care about anything in this show anymore. |
| And one of the best shows of the seasons returns. Nice! |
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| An issue I'm having with this series is the fact that in real life, the legalization of suicide (not including assisted suicide) is legal in many countries and states. It's making the issue seem relevant, and if it was talking about assisted suicide legalization or just a straight mystery with Magase that would probably work fine, but since the act of suicide is legal in numerous areas, the way the US and other countries are reacting is unrealistic to me (and therefore so is the show; also I'm fairly certain suicide and assisted suicide are state laws). The show wants you to think about these complex issues with complex characters, but with this episode I'm worried that the writing's focus on complex ideologies is going to get in the way of just telling the story in a way that makes sense (especially with themes). Overall, I hope the story ends in a way that ties everything together, but I guess we'll just have to see. |
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| fucking christian morality. this shit that western societies were build on don't allow even think about this topic. |
| Finally the show returns after that chilling exprience that was episode 7.Poor Seizaki. |
''I was dead serious''  |
| Wonder if this show is going to have the same issue that goblin slayer had, when your best episode is not your last ep the good show or great show you made makes people feel unpleasent with it. Hope the show can still impress the audience including myself after ep 7, i liked how they showed how Seisuki's life continued after the incident and they try to provide some back story to the president of the US, but giving back story to a character means they want us to connect with said character, so the story its likely to go with the president perspective instead of Seisuki?, if they do this would be a waste, its way more interesting watching someone who its about to have a mental breakdown because of shock unless they can pull a good surprise again with the president character but otherwise idk about that move. |
Ten said: you didn't give out any reasons so I am preassuming coz of the delays of this show. I advise you to watch it later. I find it hard to care about anything in this show anymore. DavidPavel said: I know it's hard to understand. but for me, it's more or less the same thing. the only difference is marijuana kills you slowly & the other kills you instantly. though by passing the suicide law, the people won't be looking it from a disgusting point of view. people will know that it is a choice & will do everything in their power to do what they want. I am from a 3rd world developing country in our culture it's really hard to talk about suicide. because in our culture people see it as a disgust. they don't want to talk about it, don't even care mental health is an issue. & that's what blows it up. So I grew up in this mess & I know what it feels like I used to think I'll kill myself one day or another coz at that time I didn't have much of a choice coz of bad parents & their bad guidance in life. but then my thought process did a complete a 180 turn & I accepted suicide as a choice & just like Alexander W. Wood I am trying to give my 100% to do everything in my power to see if I can make it & guide my own children (if I ever be able to make & afford one) the life I wanted, the guidance I craved for from my parents. so this is from my personal experience When you know it's a choice you'll be able to live life much easier than before. & this is the reason why I think this Suicide law should be a thing. it will mitigate us from one less thing to worry about. I don't know man, marijuana it's one thing, killing yourself is another... TheFlyingOrange said: IDK why did you write "many countries" because only a handful of countries & states (for example Belgium, Canada and Switzerland) allow voluntary euthanasia as of 2019 in some form or other. & Different countries have different euthanasia laws. which is quite different from what is being depicted by the anime. the issue is quite relevant. In many 3rd world countries - such as Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, India - support for active euthanasia is almost non-existent. it is a hot topic over the globe. & IDK why do you think it isn't the US thing coz assisted suicide remains illegal in a majority of states across the nation. (according to wiki) & it is even worse in 3rd world countries. in our culture, we can't even talk about it. it's a topic of shame. An issue I'm having with this series is the fact that in real life, the legalization of suicide (not including assisted suicide) is legal in many countries and states. It's making the issue seem relevant, and if it was talking about assisted suicide legalization or just a straight mystery with Magase that would probably work fine TheFlyingOrange said: See this is where you got it wrong, this whole show isn't talking about assisted suicide. it is talking about taking your own life in general, i.e. Euthanasia with or without the help of a physician. (btw in this show they are talking about a pill which has their own pros & cons. ╮(╯_╰)╭) it is about choice. The way the US is reacting is a pretty realistic depiction to me coz now the USA is not talking about assisted suicide it's talking about legalizing Euthanasia which is completely illegal in the USA & quickly getting legal in neighbouring countries. which is a major cause of concern for them. economically & morally. personally I think it should be Human right to end their own life. but whatever.but since the act of suicide is legal in numerous areas, the way the US and other countries are reacting is unrealistic to me. TheFlyingOrange said: I agree, but the ideologies are the part of the story after seeing this episode somewhere in my mind I felt the same & to be completely honest with you, I never thought this anime would be any good but the last 3 episodes made me rethink my evaluation. let's hope.The show wants you to think about these complex issues with complex characters, but with this episode, I'm worried that the writing's focus on complex ideologies is going to get in the way of just telling the story in a way that makes sense (especially with themes). Overall, I hope the story ends in a way that ties everything together, but I guess we'll just have to see. & forgive me, I know all this is confusing due to my lack of better wording. also, I am not good with my English so be sure to point out any grammatical mistakes you found while reading this post. it's gonna help me improve my English. |
KillsDec 29, 2019 4:37 PM
| Nothing impressive! |
Daniel_Naumov said: Hey, I'm not forcing you too. & it's not that bad. I can understand most of it, it's just that from my understanding the words aren't correct. I don't know or can't remember the correct words to use in this conversation. coz I am not a native English speaker & quite bad in memorizing stuff.Terribly sorry but I am not going to read this just to point our your mistakes sir. |
| Nothing impressive! |
| I don't really know what to think. It was a long wait so I forgot some things and this sudden direction change. |
| why would you introduce the president of the US with him playing and finding a hot model chick through runescape? could you go even more unrealistic with this gamer moment? that aside, why are we going worldwide? why not just stay in the scope of japan, exploring japan's suicide problem? why rush things like they did in this episode? why was a debate about suicde in a japanese city broadcaster live worldwide? you raise a death flag for Seizaki's family and go explore the legality and morality of suicide in western countries? i'm starting to think this show is supposed to be viewed as something secluded from real world, because a lot of the things in the show make no sense irl |
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prophet_dan said: I can see that happening. I am pretty sure the reason they didn't use earplugs coz they didn't know how magase does all that stuff but now that he knows about this & the involving of the US I say there is a strong possibility of this happening.Daniel_Naumov said: I don’t care for unrealistic ideologies I want a thriller that messes up the mind of someone who is pure justice, not for a 10 odd minute of an episode of him spending time with his family and not giving away too much about his mental state, also don’t blame me if he actually does use ear plugs at some point against magase also why have they ruled the dismembered girl as murdered when I’m pretty sure they didn’t find a body that with dna testing rightly said was the dumb idiot who walked right into magase forgetting who she is dealing withBecause this is literally your foolish assumption, that all that needs to be done is put on ear plugs. Are you even watching? There is a thinker as U.S.A. President for a change and you do not even follow his thought process? Wasted! |
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